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m droy's avatar

"China has the deepest pool of STEM talent in the world. The number of engineers here has more than tripled in the 20 years up to 2020, and has gone up a lot more in the past 5 years.

This part gets me, too. I was surprised that DeepSeek was the tipping point, when it could have been a hundred other things,"

Here is the thing. Yes on almost all measures China overtakes USA soon or has done in the last 10 years. But there was always one last hope: AGI - the dreamt of point where AI can do what till now only a very smart person could do.

US gets strong AGI early, and then all those other Chinese advantages disappear and US can stay Top Dog. Unlikely I agree, but it really is the USA's last hope. Hence all those oligarchs switching from Dems to Trump, the $500bn computing infrastructure plans, the lauding of the power of NVIDIA.

The Last Chance depends wholly on 2 entry barriers: Hi quality NVIDIA chips and Investment barriers that capital requirements that could only be provided by US Private Equity.

DeepSeek blows away both those barriers. Chip manufacturing and investment sums.

DeepSeek was not the tipping point (that was 9 or 10 years ago), but it was The Last Chance.

To prolong the Tipping Point idiom, DeepSeek was the point where USA landed flat on its nose.

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Richard V's avatar

You are puzzled because you don't understand what America is about. American is about predatory Empire. It's about monopolistic corporations and predatory finance. It's about a rentier class that seeks not to create wealth, but to extract wealth. And the media serves them, is owned by them. Maybe you're a good guy. Maybe your company is trying to actually make good stuff. But you are not a player. You're another dupe to be lied to and exploited by the oil companies, the weapons makers and the financiers. And they, not you or the American people, run the show. Welcome to reality, Kevin. Hope you stay for a while.

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