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Molly Meldrum's avatar

Kevin, oustanding summary. I actually think many people did see this coming. To me it is an exquisite irony that the Magnificent 7 techno-feudalists, and related rentier capitalists will be paying rent to the 'Communists'. Cheers, Molly

Bruce's avatar

Like Kevin stated, China is ahead of the curve. Capitalists will go to whatever country to get the lowest price to maximize their profits. Why do you think that 95+% of manufactured goods come from China and other Asian countries - profit and greed.

mary-lou's avatar

financial flows know no geographic boundaries.

EagleHorse5's avatar

😀Big Thanks😃

Loon's avatar

Thanks for the news on the magic of anticipation , insight, and the need to be practical in saving money. A celebration of our human trait.

Chris's avatar

Terrible take, almost really good and definitely right that China is natural dominant source of data center demand in Asia. But this is just totally incorrect numerically. US data center investment dollars, operational capacity, and under construction capacity are all 10x the China equivalent. They’re building way faster than the Chinese at the moment, and that’s a publicly available fact.

Muchado's avatar

But Kevin’s point is that they have no vacancy and that people are going to the Chinese to use the datacentres that everyone said were overbuilt (and which are cheaper).

Chris's avatar

Yes but experts also said this about the data center overbuild in US post covid, US has just already filled their overbuild. The big picture is that US is going to be a larger fraction of global data center supply in 2030 than they were in 2020, although it is true that China will also be a larger fraction of global supply. Also, it spends way too much time on energy concerns which do matter for Korea/Japan but really don’t apply for US and not nearly enough on chip supplies

Muchado's avatar

What you write may well be true, but it is irrelevant to Kevin’s point as far as I can see.

Joan Delur's avatar

Since a long times, thete are two concepts that can explsin in commons language why China win and why west lost. First. China win for the simly reason that have smarter people, programming and doingng the right thing and doing it so well. Second, to simple and msybe reductive for western comprehension and its cuz simply.. Socialism does better. Opend the mind wrsterns, we talk about SYSTEMS. Not a singke word, same fir..... SOCIALISM. Auniversal force capitalists yet don't take it what its mean. In wrst peoples when hear start to bark about Stalin. Poor minds. Now why US lose. First. You can't hide the sun with one finger. That's what silli people in wrstern Corporates, famous billionairs fid. Look Bezos, Sukerberg, Musk, super billionairs which alone do nothing. The power is the peoples that crsate abd worked for them, not them. China knows and value that difference. This enclise the Second point which comes in a "greed sac", Capitalism is GREED, silly peoples with to much money than those them should have. Sgain, the problemIts about SYSTEM. Capitalism its a system that fatten them, billionaires, not the country, this fall in them oroduction, feeding Army and wraponery machine of Private Corporates (another mess) , private Corporates weapons are to much costly weapons (you never eill win the wars). Before ir latter you pay that mess. Corporate Capitalism is paying it. China weapons sector goes faster than West cuz are Corporate State owned!, (not any one in the middle - Private Corporates- as in US among State (who pay) and them Army(client) weapons cost less in China as well as materials China strategic Cirpirates (supply) are even State owned. The win thing.. Socialism has State Production, Socialism (Peoples, Peoples Bank PBOC, State owned) own them Production System, in Capitalism its owned by Privates who fill them sacs, Sate pay. Only this explsin why... akwYs will win China, Socialism system. Trabslate more ir less to Chips Industry. Done. You git why China win chips war, simply...

Socialism... does better. Even AI and chips. China has at leas 10 years, two Periods Programs with Engineers planning what will do, all that, Socialism, CPC put in practic after. Not space for silly pimps of the elite= uncapable Politicians, uncapable Private cirporates owners which comand only cuz has money, money that Capitalism griws stealing around the Wirld sibce colonial times, nit due "capacity". Not only one day in Govern lost in stupid fights among Parties and Sectors, as in Congress. As in all west. China has Energy, chips, AI and Data Crnters to everybidy need in the Wirkd, West is looking hiw try to collect the money and build it. The gap is.. Socialism.