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SomeNYDude (he/him)'s avatar

I concur, great work. Anyone with any sense in economics could have seen this coming. Even their own AI models would have told them had they listened. The TACO regimes cuts off wind and solar, and expects to ramp up AI doesn’t pass muster.

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MakerOfNoise's avatar

This is great work. Thank you.

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Heckler1798's avatar

Restack these posts !

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Heckler1798's avatar

Lack of electricity in Ireland and cost of charging electric cars

https://x.com/deiscirt/status/1949147813616509319?s=46&t=kdqpX9FoK7c2oZJihqGaiQ

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rakyat kecil's avatar

In Australia it is free with power to spare if you install a 6kw system for aud5000.with life expectancy of 20years. More sun here though!

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Heckler1798's avatar

How does one manage the solar panel waste ?

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rakyat kecil's avatar

The panels are being recycled here by two companies. May I ask also how does one manage the fly ash problem? A power station was shut down in South Australia approximately 10years ago and dismantling commenced shortly afterwards yet there is still a huge stockpile of fly ash approximately 10 football fields to be recycled disposed of and it is blowing over residential areas as insufficient wetting of it is happening now compared to whilst the plant operated.

Solar panels have a second life and when stored do not contaminate the environment.

I get refunds from the power company every month yet you scorn renewables I assume you are subject to high power bills unless you sit in the dark and possibly cold.

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Heckler1798's avatar

I did not scorn renewables. My question was a genuine one on how wasted solar panels are recycled or dumped. My question was sincere …. Solar panels are make with silicon , trace amounts of Arsenic , etc as waste then have to be properly handled and that task won’t be trivial or without an environmental impact

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rakyat kecil's avatar

My apologies, the comment is standard fare for anti renewable MAGA types etc. If the panels are not smashed then surely the composite parts can't leech out into the environment plus also quite often only 30% of the panels have reached the end of their serviceable life the remainder still produce power but the whole system gets turfed/scrapped. I have three such 190watt panels still producing 5years after coming off a roof due to an insurance claim.

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ebear's avatar

A further potential problem for US electricity demand is that some of it comes from Canada - BC and Quebec especially. Governor Trump's trade war with Canada has driven the nation to seek new markets, one of which is LNG which consumes a lot of electricity in the liquefaction process. In the current circumstances I doubt Canada will add new capacity to supply the US market, and some portion of what they currently provide will no doubt go towards other uses, such as LNG production. How big of an issue this presents I have no idea, but it must be a factor - yet another unintended consequence of catastrophically poor leadership.

Oh and by the way, thank you for your attention to this matter...lol.

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ebear's avatar

Something that occurred to me several years ago when electric cars were first being rolled out is that they typically recharge at night when electricity demand is low. However, industries that use large amounts of electricity in processing also use that low demand period to do production runs, so I wonder what impact electric cars will have on that set-up. Yet another hidden cost I presume.

The electric grid issue is somewhat similar to the obsolescence of the copper based telephone networks. You used to see those lines everywhere along highways and rail roads - up to 30 lines on a pole. A real eyesore in big cities. All gone now, replaced by cell towers, optic cable and satellites. Something similar will happen with the electric grid is my guess. As modular reactors become more common, distribution will be more local, negating the need for massive transmission corridors such as we see today. Large scale power outages will be less frequent as well, since most cities and industrial zones will have their own dedicated grids.

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Heckler1798's avatar

UK electricity production is declining , apparently …:

https://x.com/alecstapp/status/1949524216522346994?s=46&t=kdqpX9FoK7c2oZJihqGaiQ

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